Comments on: I Don’t Believe In Atheists http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/ Just another My-wp.com weblog Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:58:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mike Allen http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-254 Mike Allen Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:58:22 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-254 Yes, I get it, but even in philosophical terms, there can be no existence without a "god" of some sort, and if you believe there is none, then you name yourself to the post, just as there can be no society without government. Thank you for the time you put into this blog, but also for the attitude of humility you have in posting and responding. Keep up the good work! Yes, I get it, but even in philosophical terms, there can be no existence without a “god” of some sort, and if you believe there is none, then you name yourself to the post, just as there can be no society without government.

Thank you for the time you put into this blog, but also for the attitude of humility you have in posting and responding. Keep up the good work!

]]> By: Heretic http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-249 Heretic Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:14:45 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-249 Mike- My statement was made with my "tongue in my cheek" so to speak to accentuate the absurdity. Blessings! Mike-
My statement was made with my “tongue in my cheek” so to speak to accentuate the absurdity.

Blessings!

]]> By: Mike Brooks http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-185 Mike Brooks Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:01:23 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-185 Fist of all, to all atheists, I admire your faith. Of course, I personally think it is misplaced, but anyone who can see the world I see and declare that there is no God has far more faith than I do, where it is relatively easy to come to the conclusion that God exists from what I see and experience. I see you hit on the concept of universal moral law, as C.S. Lewis does rather well in "Mere Christianity" (still one of my favorites), as a sign indicating the presence of an ultimate "good" that can only have been put into the heart of man by God. I, too, liked the Coca-Cola story. There are many signs, if you will, at least indicating the existence of something more than mankind. While I would not agree that atheists simply do not exist, I would say that the existence of atheists certainly does not mean that God does not exist. He can't be "done away with", much in the same way that anarchists can not create a world without government (perhaps in this light, I do agree with your inital post, Heretic). True anarchists say we should not have a government, which is in itself a government. If there were no law, then the strongest of us physically, or the most wealthy, or most ruthless, would fill the void of government by default. There will always be a ruler, it is simply a matter of who, and how the government is carried out. Claiming there is no God is in the same way declaring yourself a God, in essence still having a God....it's just yourself. If this is your belief, then so be it. However, I know myself well enough to know that I am unfit for the throne. Fist of all, to all atheists, I admire your faith. Of course, I personally think it is misplaced, but anyone who can see the world I see and declare that there is no God has far more faith than I do, where it is relatively easy to come to the conclusion that God exists from what I see and experience.

I see you hit on the concept of universal moral law, as C.S. Lewis does rather well in “Mere Christianity” (still one of my favorites), as a sign indicating the presence of an ultimate “good” that can only have been put into the heart of man by God. I, too, liked the Coca-Cola story. There are many signs, if you will, at least indicating the existence of something more than mankind.

While I would not agree that atheists simply do not exist, I would say that the existence of atheists certainly does not mean that God does not exist. He can’t be “done away with”, much in the same way that anarchists can not create a world without government (perhaps in this light, I do agree with your inital post, Heretic). True anarchists say we should not have a government, which is in itself a government. If there were no law, then the strongest of us physically, or the most wealthy, or most ruthless, would fill the void of government by default. There will always be a ruler, it is simply a matter of who, and how the government is carried out. Claiming there is no God is in the same way declaring yourself a God, in essence still having a God….it’s just yourself.

If this is your belief, then so be it. However, I know myself well enough to know that I am unfit for the throne.

]]> By: Juke http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-180 Juke Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:49:53 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-180 Heretic I don't think the things I listed could reasonably be called 'minute details' and there are all number of explanations for human behaviour which do not include a god. But there is already enough division in the world and this is a special time for you Christians so I will bow out. Good wishes and may your god go with you. Heretic

I don’t think the things I listed could reasonably be called ‘minute details’ and there are all number of explanations for human behaviour
which do not include a god. But there is already enough division in the world and this is a special time for you Christians so I will bow out.

Good wishes and may your god go with you.

]]> By: momlovesbeingathome http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-181 momlovesbeingathome Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:10:33 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-181 Well said in the last comment, Heretic! Thanks :) Well said in the last comment, Heretic! Thanks :)

]]> By: Heretic http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Heretic Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:12:10 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-184 momlbah- Welcome if I haven't already said so. I agree with your take. There are foundational principles that all cultures hold as valuable. Even in societies that seem to condone killing, try killing a family member, and see if they think it is right? They don't, hence they'll seek revenge? Why else? Because they believe that killing is wrong. To Juke- I don't believe that momlbah was referring to the minute details, differing interpretations or applications within various law systems, but the generic principles behind them that seem to resound in every family group around the globe regardless of there connection to any other culture. Amazingly, lying, stealing, cheating, killing, etc. are looked down upon in almost every culture - even though infractions are very prevalent in some, does not discount the fact that universally individuals believe that breaking the law is wrong. momlbah-
Welcome if I haven’t already said so. I agree with your take. There are foundational principles that all cultures hold as valuable. Even in societies that seem to condone killing, try killing a family member, and see if they think it is right? They don’t, hence they’ll seek revenge? Why else? Because they believe that killing is wrong.

To Juke-
I don’t believe that momlbah was referring to the minute details, differing interpretations or applications within various law systems, but the generic principles behind them that seem to resound in every family group around the globe regardless of there connection to any other culture. Amazingly, lying, stealing, cheating, killing, etc. are looked down upon in almost every culture – even though infractions are very prevalent in some, does not discount the fact that universally individuals believe that breaking the law is wrong.

]]> By: Heretic http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-183 Heretic Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:01:53 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-183 godless- Welcome! I'll have to look at your post when I have more time. Blessings! godless-
Welcome! I’ll have to look at your post when I have more time. Blessings!

]]> By: Heretic http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Heretic Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:59:49 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-182 null- Welcome! I'm not sure how you construe that statement to be blashpemey? Maybe you couldn't tell that it was dripping with sarcasm? Blessings! null-
Welcome! I’m not sure how you construe that statement to be blashpemey? Maybe you couldn’t tell that it was dripping with sarcasm?

Blessings!

]]> By: nullifidian http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-179 nullifidian Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:06:40 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-179 "And that my friends is the honest-to-God true story of how Coca-Cola was created!" Wow! Blaspheming on your own weblog! You have some real cojones there! ;-) “And that my friends is the honest-to-God true story of how Coca-Cola was created!”

Wow! Blaspheming on your own weblog! You have some real cojones there! ;-)

]]> By: Godless Geek http://my-wp.com/hereticconfessions/2007/03/15/i-dont-believe-in-atheists/comment-page-1/#comment-178 Godless Geek Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:46:56 +0000 http://hereticconfessions.my-wp.com/?p=118#comment-178 I've posted a blog response at: http://blog.infeasible.net/2007/03/were-all-just-figments-of-your.html I’ve posted a blog response at: http://blog.infeasible.net/2007/03/were-all-just-figments-of-your.html

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